A Sales Letter Can Transform Your Inner Dialogue and Save Your Life
Book Release: “Read This or Die”
In this episode, I introduce an extraordinary guest who harnessed the power of persuasion to ignite a profound transformation, ultimately rescuing his existence.
Prepare to hear a captivating conversation with the esteemed Ray Edwards, a renowned copywriter, author, speaker, and marketer, as he recounts his arduous struggle with Parkinson’s.
He reveals his victorious triumph during one of his darkest moments. Ray generously imparts invaluable insights on dismantling emotional obstacles through persuasion and encourages others to do the same.
In this podcast, Ray shares the following.
- Discerning between merely existing and truly living
- Contemplating our mortality has become prominent throughout all generations, but its awareness can lead to a hopeful future.
- Unmasking Covid’s lingering effects, consequences, or silver lining?
- Writing a persuasive letter to yourself can lead to dramatic changes.
- Learning a new approach to life from a younger generation.
Takeaways
- Persuading yourself is the first step towards achieving goals and success.
- The way we talk to ourselves can significantly impact our self-confidence and motivation.
- By changing our internal dialogue, we can boost our confidence and overcome fears of rejection and failure.
- The role of empathy and creating a connection when persuading others.
- The importance of taking action and consistently making progress towards your goals.
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About Ray Edwards
Ray Edwards is a Communications Strategist, Copywriter, Author, Speaker, and host of one the top iTunes Business Podcasts. He has worked with Fortune 500 companies and with some of the most powerful voices in leadership and business.
His clients include New York Times best-selling authors Michael Hyatt (author of Platform and co-author of Living Forward), Tony Robbins (author of Unleash the Giant Within and Money: Master the Game), Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen (co-authors of Chicken Soup For the Soul), Jeff Walker (author of Launch), and many more.
Ray’s copy and marketing expertise has helped sell an estimated $200 Million or more in products and services.
Ray is the founder of Ray Edwards International, Incorporated, which offers:
- Copywriting
- Consulting and Coaching
- Product Launch Management
- Training and Instruction
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He has been a mentor.
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He’s also the person that I reached out
to when I wanted to get my copywriting
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certification. So without further ado,
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I want to introduce Mr. Ray
Edwards. Hi Ray. How are you?
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Hi there. I’m so good, so
honored to be here with you.
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Yes, I’m delighted.
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And you’ve been working on a project
and we are on this podcast today
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specifically to highlight
your latest book.
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So for the sake of those people
that maybe don’t know who you are,
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you wanna give us a little background
and then tell us a little bit about your
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book. Just, just the title.
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Let’s just tease it up and then
we’ll break it down from there.
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Sure, sure. Um, about me,
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I’m best known as a copywriter
and marketing consultant,
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communication strategist.
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I’ve had the privilege of working
with people like Tony Robbins and Jack
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Canfield, Margaret, Dr.
Hansen, uh, Michael Hyatt,
Stu McLaren, Amy Porterfield,
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names you probably know. And,
um, thousands of other students.
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And we have a copywriting
certification program. We,
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we write ads to sell ideas,
products, and services.
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That’s what we do at my company. And
it’s a million-dollar company, uh,
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that’s all very fancy.
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That’s how you introduce yourself
into a room to impress people.
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But there’s a lot of blood, sweat, and
tears that went into building that,
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of course. And, um, what people,
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many people probably don’t
know or maybe don’t know,
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is that about 12 years ago I was diagnosed
with Parkinson’s Disease and that
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progresses over time.
It’s incurable so far,
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and it progresses over time
and just gets worse. And it’s,
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it’s about more than just shaking hands.
People think your hands are shaking.
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And that’s what Parkinson’s is.
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You begin to lose control of your entire
body over time. I mean, it eventually,
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the disease rubs you of everything
that makes life enjoyable.
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It robs you of your ability to
walk, talk, eat, feed yourself,
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um, dress yourself, take care of the most
basic human needs, fill in the blanks.
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You can probably figure out
what I’m talking about. And, um,
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it’s a very unpleasant outcome for
everybody who gets it and survives long
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enough. Um, you may have seen Michael J.
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Fox interviewed by Diane Sawyer
recently, and he’s just, um,
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he’s had it for 30 years. He’s
one of the longest surviving, um,
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recipients of, of this special gift. Um,
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and I used to not be able
to call it a gift. I,
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I would get angry with
people who, who did.
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And the process that I went
through getting from a place
where I used to look at
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it as a curse and the end of my
life, and now I see it as a gift.
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It’s given me so much. We can
get into that if you want to. Um,
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the title of the book is called Read This
or Die Persuading Yourself to A Better
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Life. And yeah, It’s about
that. It’s about that journey.
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But what it’s really about is
how I tried so many things.
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I tried curing a disease, first of all,
cause I didn’t believe it was incurable.
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And so far I, along with everybody
else in the world who’s ever tried,
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has not been able to cure it.
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But there’s hope for that thanks to
Mr. Fox and his organization. Um,
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we’ve made lots of progress over the years
and I’ve seen treatments improve over
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the years as I’ve been
getting progressively worse
and taking more and more
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medication and so forth. But we’ll
get to that underlying, that.
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The real reason that I’m here today is,
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the reason I wrote the book is the fact
that I had to figure out whether life
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was worth living. And if it
was, how is I gonna live it?
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And that’s the real story of the
book. And the story is that, uh,
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I tried self-help, I tried religion, I
tried, I’m not speaking against religion,
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I’m just saying it didn’t
cure his disease. So that was,
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that was the outcome I was looking for.
That was the outcome I was looking for.
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Um.
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Right, right. Yeah.
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I didn’t get it. And.
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I think also, Ray, you’re
mentioning Parkinson’s, but
I think this book, I mean,
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challenges are everywhere. Right?
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I think this book is an
amazing book for anyone. Um,
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because I saw that it’s, it’s
sort of like a memoir, self-help,
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but challenges now go across the
board and sometimes challenges aren’t,
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uh, visible and they’re sort of hidden
because we’re told to, you know,
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step up and just show up and,
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and with some people live with
this just building inside of them.
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So I think for people, any person
that’s going through a challenge,
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whether it’s a debilitating
challenge, emotional, spiritual,
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whatever it might be, would you
say you would recommend this book?
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Cuz I feel it’s perfect for them.
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Yes. I would say that. Yeah. Thanks
for getting me out of book promo.
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Holding into conversation mode.
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<Laugh>. No, no problem at all. No,
I just, I love it. I love hearing.
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I was gonna ask you
those questions anyway.
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Persuading yourself to a better
life. When people see that,
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cuz life is so broad, um,
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are you talking about specifically
just their personal life with their
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relationships or business or
just for self-fulfillment or just
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feeling better each day? How would
you define that as far as life?
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Cuz it’s so broad and everybody
looks at it differently.
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Some people think life a better
life is success and money.
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There’s different interpretations.
What’s your, your definition of it?
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Well, I think it’s everybody’s term
to define for themselves. Mm-hmm.
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<affirmative>. And for different people
it means different things. I mean,
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if you have a disease that causes
you a lot of pain every day,
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or disability every day,
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then a better life could be getting
help with those particular problems
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and learning to ask for
that help. And also,
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it could be smaller challenges too. It
doesn’t have to be a life-threatening,
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debilitating disease. The fact is we
all have a life-threatening disease.
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It’s called life. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative>, it comes to an end.
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And that’s something that I
think we all know intellectually,
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but we don’t think about it very much.
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I think about it a lot <laugh>, because
I’m just more acutely aware of it.
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But what it makes you most aware of is
if you think about your own mortality,
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it makes you most aware of the
importance of living a good life today,
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a better life today. And that could
be for someone who’s not gotten a,
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a big diagnosis, or maybe you
don’t have a divorce pending,
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or your business hasn’t been
destroyed by a pandemic, for instance.
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Some people had that experience. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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Uh, maybe it’s not something that big.
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Maybe it’s like you eat too many donuts
every day and you want to eat less
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donuts and carry less
body fat. Maybe it’s,
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maybe it’s you just find yourself feeling
down about the condition of the world
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or the condition of your life or your
progress as you compare yourself to all
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the other people on Instagram.
Um, maybe it’s right.
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Maybe it’s a mental kind of, I wanna
be more up, I wanna be more happy,
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more joyous. I wanna appreciate
the things in my life more.
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Maybe it’s just some simple things
like, you wanna get your house in order.
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Your your house is, I I’m not,
I’m not speaking metaphorically.
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I’m saying maybe your house is messy.
I wanna have a cleaner house. Mm-hmm.
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<affirmative> a better life could be so
many things to so many people and it’s
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different degrees. Yeah. And whatever
your problem is, whatever your biggest,
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think of your biggest problem right now,
you don’t have to tell me what it is,
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Marisa, but what’s your,
what’s your biggest problem?
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That is your biggest
problem right now. Yeah.
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And your biggest problem might be you
need to get your nails done. I don’t know.
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Yeah. It’s not for me to say,
but Right. I do know this.
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Whatever our problem is,
that’s not the real problem.
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The real problem for most of us
is how we think about the problem.
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And I know it because I was
forced to apply that philosophy,
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that way of thinking to this very
intrusive problem that I have. I mean,
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I can pretend not to. I can think
about it. I cannot think about it.
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I don’t have to pretend I cannot think
about it for some periods of time. Right.
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But eventually it will impose
this presence on me with the,
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my inability to pick up a pen and write
or to get up and walk across the room
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with confidence. And so I,
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I was faced with having to deal
with these issues that we all have.
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Cause we all have challenges in life.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, as you said.
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But we don’t all have one that forces
us to pay attention to it. Yeah.
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A lot of ’em, we can press down
and ignore them, suppress them,
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but it comes out eventually
somehow. Yeah, it does.
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Which is not in a healthy way either
deal with your problems consciously or
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subconsciously. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
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I recommend doing it
consciously cuz subconscious,
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the subconscious way of dealing with
your problems is usually messy and ugly.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. No, I agree.
And even bottling it up, you know, and,
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and you know, the challenge
is whatever it might be,
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pain and suffering is, you
know, is common to all.
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And the, the reason why you’re going
through that could be different.
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But at the end of the day, everyone
is not living their fullest life.
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Which is why I love this
book. Can I just read a,
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a few little quotes and maybe you can
expand on it cuz I saw some things that
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caught my eye. Is that okay? Cause I
know the book hasn’t been released yet.
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Sure, of course. It’s okay to do
that. That, yeah. You, you said here,
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experiencing a global pandemic
that changed the way people lived
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their lives in many ways,
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this change caused me
to shrink into a smaller
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life and use it as an
excuse for receding from
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the lives of others.
Can you expand on that?
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Cuz I think that happened to a
lot of people. People began to,
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their world became smaller and smaller.
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And then as things started opening up,
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I don’t know if it’s
different for everyone,
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but it seems like the effects of that
is still things that people are dealing
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with. You wanna talk a little
bit about that statement? Yeah.
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Yeah. I, I think you’re
right on the mark. We,
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we all had to shrink back from being
in public and being in crowds and being
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with other people. We all had to
wear masks. Well not everybody did,
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but most people wore the mask for a
long period of time. And I noticed,
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I found myself, when it came
time to take the mask off,
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I found myself not wanting to take it
off cuz it hid my facial expression.
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Or as a person with Parkinson’s, my lack
sometimes of a facial expression. Uh,
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I didn’t have to explain
that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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And more to the point though, I
didn’t have to go out in public.
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I didn’t have to go to restaurants.
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I didn’t have to go to events and speak
and have people ask me, what’s wrong?
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You’re, you’re kind of shaky. You’re kind
of unstable. You’re not walking well,
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are you okay? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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And I know that people mean kindness
when they ask those questions,
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but eventually that becomes
fatiguing for us. And it’s not,
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as someone with Parkinson’s who goes
through that, it’s anybody there.
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For many people who are especially, who
tend to be more introverted. Anyway,
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it was a, a retreat from
that interaction with people.
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And it becomes very difficult once you
become accustomed to being isolated,
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becomes very difficult to be more
public again. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
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because being isolated allows us to hide.
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We can hide our feelings from others.
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We can hide the truth of
what’s going on with us.
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We can hide the difficult things we’re
dealing with whatever they may be,
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and we don’t have to talk
about it. And then, you know,
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compound that with the fact that because
of what was going on in the world,
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what still is going on in the world,
the pandemic changed everything forever.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
it really did. Mm-hmm.
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<affirmative> changed the way we
work, changed the way we interact,
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changed the way we think about public
health, about politics, about society,
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about different levels of
society, about racial issues.
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So many things came to light. You know,
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a time of crisis does not change
who we are. It exposes who we are.
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That is so true. That is so
true. And you know, I think too,
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um, that the reality, the threat of,
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and many people did die
from that season. Um,
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but the reality,
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I think people were beginning to figure
out what’s gonna happen to me if I do
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get Covid? Am I going to die?
And I think that being forced,
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like you said,
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sometimes we do it willingly to think
about our life and how we’re gonna live
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But it seemed like everybody was forced
to look at their own mortality and covid
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itself, even for those people
that came through. Even now,
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I think the last time we spoke,
I had come down with Covid.
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I was already having symptoms the
last time we chatted on Zoom. Mm-hmm.
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<affirmative>. And it wasn’t until I
took a test, I realized that I got,
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cause my whole family got it not that
long ago and this past spring, and I was,
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I had zip energy. I
mean the fever, I mean,
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it took four weeks and not being
myself with just with that was
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so difficult because I thought, is it
ever gonna get better? <laugh>, you know,
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a lot of strange things go between the
ears when you’re faced with something.
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Especially if something comes suddenly
like, like Covid did. So, um, so yeah,
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for sure. I think that was
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of actually looking at mortality.
As you get older, like I am,
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you think about that more.
You think about, you know,
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your mortality and how you wanna live
your life each day and make it the best.
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But when people are younger,
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what would you say to younger people
that maybe don’t think of that as much
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because things are going really well
and they have their youthfulness.
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What would you say to them?
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Well, I think I pay more
attention. Uh, look around. But I,
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I think I wanna say
this. Um, I’ve learned,
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I’ve been spending a lot of
time with younger people.
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I have younger people on my team.
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I see younger people at the
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And I pay a lot of attention to them
because they are not only the future,
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they’re the present that, I mean, look
around you folks. If you’re in your,
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if you’re in the 45 plus age category,
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look around you and see who the
pilots are on your aircraft.
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Who the doctor is at the doctor’s
office. <laugh>. That’s true.
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Who the attorneys are in the courtroom.
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They’re people in their thirties and
they’re sometimes in their twenties.
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And so I think we, we have to
be careful as people of the
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earlier generation say it that
way. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we,
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we sometimes tend to get
into this condescending tone
when we talk about younger
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And you’re not doing that cuz I know
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that. But I would say
so many younger people,
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people in their twenties and thirties,
or teens even because of Covid,
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they have more of a sense of
mortality than we ever did growing up.
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Cuz I thought I was immortal.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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I had never faced anything
like a pandemic before.
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I was living in a little isolated
American middle class white person
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neighborhood.
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And that was a bubble that got burst
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as I grew up,
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as I grew older and began to see the
truth of how the whole world is. So,
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but for, for those who are
in their younger years under,
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under the age of 45, let’s say. Yeah, I
know you think you’re immortal and you,
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you know, everybody else is gonna die,
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but you think you’re the main character
in your movie and you’re not gonna die,
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but you are. It’s not something,
it’s not something old Parkinson’s,
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how I love you. It’s not
something that is, um,
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<affirmative> that is
morbid to think about.
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It’s something that helps you
appreciate the life you have.
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Yes. So true. That’s why.
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Yeah. I was never a guy who had tattoos,
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but I got one after I got diagnosed
with the words Memento mori on it,
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which means, remember you’ll
die. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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And then I got another one
on the other arm that says
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Vita abundant, which
means so live abundantly.
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That’s the whole purpose
of the me memento. Okay.
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I’m gonna get this Memento mori.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative> try to say that
10 times. Right. <laugh>, I can’t,
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it’s not.
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About, it’s not about
contemplating the horrors of death,
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it’s kind about contemplating
the joys of life. Yes.
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Totally different perspective.
Right. Totally different and young.
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That age range that, that’s my kids.
Right. They’re in their thirties,
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early thirties. Yeah. Mine too.
They think differently. They,
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and I’m glad they’re interesting.
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Like my son is looking at just really
kind of not living completely off the
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grid, but just living a simple life.
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Not going after all these things that
a lot of the baby boomers and other
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generations went through. Yeah.
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But of course they had a
history why they did that.
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But they’re looking at things
differently. Would you agree? You.
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Know, I, I do think of the
boomers, I think of the,
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the hippie movement and the counterculture
movement. And it’s almost like,
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I feel like today the,
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the generation that’s in
their late twenties and early
to mid thirties are like
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hippies with practical
knowledge of the world.
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Yes. Very intelligent. This stuff.
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They’re gonna, yeah. They’re
very intelligent. They
know how technology works.
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They know how, what’s, what’s good
about it, what’s not good about it.
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There’s so much for us to learn from
them. Yes. That’s exciting to me.
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I agree. I agree. Totally different
perspective, healthier perspective.
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They’re wanting that slower pace.
Many of them, including my, my kids.
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Uh, my son has a kind of a
hybrid work that he does.
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He does film production stuff and he
only has to go in once a week to the
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office and he can work at home.
And they’re all pursuing that.
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They’re pursuing something simpler,
something easier. So they can,
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as they get kids, you know, they wanna
be able to have that flexibility.
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They’re already thinking that they don’t
need a sales page to tell them that
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the rat race is for rats,
not for humans. Right, right.
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And to live more of a human life.
Um, nobody has to tell them that.
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I think they’ve watched and
they said, I don’t want that.
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And that’s a healthy perspective. And
it’s the same with my daughter. My,
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my daughter and my granddaughter
live with us for that one reason.
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She didn’t want to have to have all
of the bills and all the things.
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And they’ve lived with us for 10 years
and it’s worked out great. Yeah. But she,
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um, she’s trying to make that shift as
well because she’s saying, you know,
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the years pass very quickly.
And so, uh, no, I agree.
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I think they’ve got a good perspective
and they are highly intelligent and
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they’re going in the right direction.
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So kudos to the younger generation
for sure. Yeah, I agree. For sure.
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They, they also got,
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they’ve got more awareness of their
own mental health challenges and Yes.
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You know, there’s lots of,
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lots of talk about mental health these
days and which is good. There should be.
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And yeah. Again, we have
covid to thank for that. Yeah.
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Cuz they came to the surface for a
lot of people. Yeah. And there’s.
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More.
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That.
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And there was a time where it
wasn’t talked about as much. It was.
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It was, yeah. It was, yeah. 2018
and, and back <laugh>. Mm-hmm.
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<affirmative> it was, I mean we, we’ve
learned it’s become, I mean, truthfully,
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it’s become more socially acceptable to
say I’m dealing with depression right
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now. Yeah. Before 2019, 2020 it,
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there was still a huge portion of
the population and there still is, I,
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I won’t pretend that there’s
not mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
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a lot of people just
wouldn’t talk about it.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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Because they’re embarrassed by,
they’re ashamed of ashamed of it.
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And I think it’s healthy
for them when people,
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entrepreneurs or people that
are in a public space to,
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to be completely themselves like you
are very transparent with your book and
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your journey and so forth.
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I think people want to connect with
real human beings and know, wow,
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I’m not alone. You know, this person
is going through something as well.
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You know, because really, and when
we market, we gotta realize that,
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that people are going through all
kinds of changes, transitions,
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stress, all kinds of things.
Cuz you hear it all the time.
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So I think anytime we
can leverage our, um,
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our publicity in a way that
encourages people is also helpful.
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And I think that transparency is allowing
that because there was a day where
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people wouldn’t share that. They
wouldn’t share their faith, you know,
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because it could, you know,
compromise their work, you know,
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those kind of things. But I think
people are being a little bit more real.
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And I think people want that.
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It seems like people want more
human to human connection. So, um,
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I have another question for you.
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You talked about existing versus living.
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Can you, now, I have some ideas in my
head, but I wanna see your perspective.
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Can you give us some symptoms,
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maybe a way for somebody that’s
going through the day-to-day,
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they’re going through to work, they’re
doing the things they need to do,
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picking up the kids.
Can you give some, um,
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examples or maybe symptoms of people
that might be existing and not
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completely living?
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Sure. If you feel like you’re just
going through the motions mm-hmm.
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<affirmative>, if you feel like, oh,
it’s another day, like every other day,
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I don’t know why I do this. If you
wonder what the point of it all is,
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if you find yourself not interested
in things that used to fascinate, you,
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if you find yourself not really
having any real joy, I mean, for you,
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maybe a good day is I don’t want
to stick my head in the oven.
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Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
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Then you might be just existing.
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Or if you just find life to be
empty and meaningless and pointless,
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if you’re into that nihilistic
kind of viewpoint, like it’s, it’s,
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it all means nothing when
I do a mouse to nothing.
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And there’s no reason to be here.
And it might not be that dramatic,
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but if you know those feelings as they
sound even faintly familiar mm-hmm.
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<affirmative>, because for a,
a long time I said to myself,
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I would feel those feelings, but I would,
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I would diminish them with the words I
use. Well, I’m feeling kind of off today.
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I’m feeling kind of low energy
today. I don’t, I don’t, I’m not,
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I’m not vibing with how things
ought usually are today.
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Then that’s when there’s
no, when there’s no flavor,
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when there’s no color to life, when
there’s no joy, when there’s nothing.
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You’re looking forward to
anticipating gleefully. Yeah.
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Then maybe you’re just
existing. Yeah. And to,
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to some I would say maybe that’s
the best you can do right now.
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Just do the best you can,
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but recognize where you are and
there’s a higher level of living that’s
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available to you.
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And protect hope. Don’t lose hope.
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Because sometimes people are in that
existing mode because they haven’t tapped
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into their potential.
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They haven’t tapped into some things
that maybe they really want to do,
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but they feel they can’t do.
So they feel like I’m stuck. I,
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this is all I can do. I need to provide
for my family. Be responsible. You know,
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and maybe those things that
they’ve always wanted to do,
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that untapped potential, those skills,
those talents, those abilities, the real,
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uh, purpose that they feel in their heart,
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that can also lead to depression if
they feel like they’re just existing as
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well.
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Yeah, for sure. And if
you’re, you know, I,
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00:22:05,980 –> 00:22:07,780
I recommend anybody who’s
having those feelings.
397
00:22:08,160 –> 00:22:10,380
And certainly if you’re having
feelings of ending your own life,
398
00:22:10,381 –> 00:22:14,130
which is the point I arrived at,
I describe it in the book. Mm-hmm.
399
00:22:14,170 –> 00:22:15,930
<affirmative>, I’ve been there, I’ve
been there more than once, frankly,
400
00:22:15,931 –> 00:22:17,890
where I just felt like
maybe we’d just be better.
401
00:22:18,530 –> 00:22:22,460
I just checked out and I can’t,
402
00:22:22,700 –> 00:22:27,330
I can’t tell anybody how much pain
they can bear. I, I just mm-hmm.
403
00:22:27,410 –> 00:22:29,530
<affirmative>, I don’t, I don’t have
that ability. I don’t have that. Right.
404
00:22:30,119 –> 00:22:32,330
Only you could say how much pain you
can bear, but I can tell you this,
405
00:22:33,530 –> 00:22:37,060
that does not end the pain. If
you end yourself, you may end,
406
00:22:37,119 –> 00:22:41,190
you may end your own pain. We don’t
really know. So keep bear that in mind.
407
00:22:41,191 –> 00:22:43,869
You don’t really know if that ends the
pain or not. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
408
00:22:43,890 –> 00:22:46,920
But we do know that it leaves
a lot of pain behind mm-hmm.
409
00:22:47,000 –> 00:22:49,400
<affirmative> the people that you care
about, people that you love. Mm-hmm.
410
00:22:49,820 –> 00:22:51,260
<affirmative> maybe,
maybe, maybe you feel,
411
00:22:51,680 –> 00:22:54,260
you may feel like you don’t love a lot
of people, but you like a lot of people.
412
00:22:55,100 –> 00:22:56,840
You don’t wanna be the
cause of all that pain.
413
00:22:57,540 –> 00:23:01,080
And you’ve got something left to
contribute no matter how, how old you are,
414
00:23:01,100 –> 00:23:04,960
no matter how sick you are. I think
of Stephen Hawking, who mm-hmm.
415
00:23:05,040 –> 00:23:08,720
<affirmative> was so debilitated
by ALS that he wrote his last book,
416
00:23:08,721 –> 00:23:12,990
which was a huge book. I don’t know
how many hundred pages long it was,
417
00:23:12,991 –> 00:23:14,030
but it looked like a phone book.
418
00:23:14,930 –> 00:23:19,390
He wrote it by twitching a muscle in his
cheek that triggered a computer to type
419
00:23:19,450 –> 00:23:23,850
one letter. That’s how I wrote
the book. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
420
00:23:23,970 –> 00:23:28,210
And yet he’s the most
respected astrophysicist in
history. How’s that possible?
421
00:23:29,010 –> 00:23:31,970
Because he had a purpose and he had
hope that he could contribute something
422
00:23:31,971 –> 00:23:32,850
meaningful to the future.
423
00:23:34,790 –> 00:23:39,210
So this letter you wrote to yourself
that you have in the book, um,
424
00:23:39,320 –> 00:23:43,010
what prompted you to do that? To
just write that letter to yourself?
425
00:23:43,109 –> 00:23:44,050
It almost sounded,
426
00:23:44,051 –> 00:23:48,080
was it a journaling process that kind
of escalated to the writing the page to
427
00:23:48,240 –> 00:23:49,073
yourself or?
428
00:23:49,910 –> 00:23:51,880
Yeah, I did lots of journaling.
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh,
429
00:23:51,881 –> 00:23:56,530
most of it’s self-indulgent.
This is a g-rated show, isn’t it?
430
00:23:56,850 –> 00:23:57,890
<laugh> self-indulgent bull.
431
00:23:57,890 –> 00:23:58,723
Crap <laugh>.
432
00:24:00,590 –> 00:24:04,830
Um, but it led to me getting some
feelings out on paper. And you know,
433
00:24:04,831 –> 00:24:07,270
when you put ’em on paper,
they become more real. Yeah.
434
00:24:07,510 –> 00:24:09,150
And I realized I needed to
change the way I thought.
435
00:24:09,380 –> 00:24:13,200
Self-help seminars and books and
audios weren’t working for me.
436
00:24:13,900 –> 00:24:16,720
And faith healers hadn’t worked for
me and crystals hadn’t worked for me.
437
00:24:17,560 –> 00:24:21,119
Aromatherapy and essential
oils and everything else
you could possibly think of.
438
00:24:21,200 –> 00:24:25,560
I had tried infrared
laser, um, you name it.
439
00:24:26,640 –> 00:24:30,680
Um, so I was thinking one day, well
what have I done all my life as,
440
00:24:30,859 –> 00:24:34,200
as a living? I’ve persuaded people
to change their way of thinking.
441
00:24:35,100 –> 00:24:36,960
So I realized I couldn’t
change the disease,
442
00:24:37,580 –> 00:24:40,359
but I could change the way of thinking
about the disease. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
443
00:24:40,420 –> 00:24:42,760
So I wrote myself a sales
letter, a sales page.
444
00:24:43,640 –> 00:24:45,320
I did it intentionally as a sales page.
445
00:24:45,800 –> 00:24:48,280
I realized this was the most important
sales job I’d ever done in my life.
446
00:24:48,560 –> 00:24:51,990
I had to sell me on a,
wanting to live and b,
447
00:24:52,340 –> 00:24:53,910
wanting to live to certain standards.
448
00:24:54,220 –> 00:24:56,470
There’s a way to live that’s
better than other ways to live.
449
00:24:56,700 –> 00:24:58,830
It’s different for me. And
it just d than it is for you.
450
00:24:59,530 –> 00:25:01,010
We each have to decide on ourselves.
451
00:25:01,030 –> 00:25:03,850
So I suggest you write
yourself such as a letter.
452
00:25:04,330 –> 00:25:08,450
I used my own copywriting framework to
write the letter, the pastor framework,
453
00:25:08,609 –> 00:25:12,109
P A S T O R, which stands for problem
454
00:25:13,760 –> 00:25:16,090
pain, person Problem and
Pain. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
455
00:25:16,091 –> 00:25:18,490
So I knew who I was writing to.
I knew that guy. Well, yeah.
456
00:25:18,690 –> 00:25:21,090
I got the name a lot better
when I got this disease.
457
00:25:21,960 –> 00:25:23,920
I knew what the problem was.
I knew what the pain was.
458
00:25:24,670 –> 00:25:27,930
The A stands for amplify the
consequences of not solving the problem.
459
00:25:28,050 –> 00:25:30,590
I knew what that was gonna be. Uh,
460
00:25:30,690 –> 00:25:35,670
it was took the form at one point
of two bottles of pills and a
461
00:25:35,671 –> 00:25:39,470
bottle of bourbon. I didn’t
do it, but I thought about it.
462
00:25:39,970 –> 00:25:43,900
So I knew that where that led, it led
lots of pain for people that I love.
463
00:25:44,020 –> 00:25:47,500
I couldn’t, if nothing else
stopped me from taking that step,
464
00:25:48,020 –> 00:25:50,460
it was the thought of the, the
pain I knew would leave behind me,
465
00:25:51,260 –> 00:25:55,869
stopped me from taking it. The s
is the story of a solution. Mm-hmm.
466
00:25:55,910 –> 00:25:56,743
<affirmative>, I had,
467
00:25:56,750 –> 00:26:01,030
I had to go find and testimony is T So
I had to go find plenty of stories of
468
00:26:01,031 –> 00:26:03,270
people who had solved
this problem before me.
469
00:26:03,609 –> 00:26:06,270
People who had not been
cured of Parkinson’s,
470
00:26:06,730 –> 00:26:10,190
but people who had faced some
big life altering involuntarily,
471
00:26:10,191 –> 00:26:13,030
engaged in challenge to the way
they thought they were gonna live.
472
00:26:13,580 –> 00:26:15,920
And they overcame that
with their way of thinking.
473
00:26:16,170 –> 00:26:19,520
There was plenty of plenty
of examples of that.
474
00:26:20,590 –> 00:26:25,460
And then o stands for offer. So
the offer in this case is what’s,
475
00:26:25,740 –> 00:26:27,740
what, what are your choices?
You have choice A or choice B,
476
00:26:27,741 –> 00:26:30,100
you have the road to the left,
the road to the right. Yeah. The.
477
00:26:30,140 –> 00:26:30,460
Road to the right.
478
00:26:30,460 –> 00:26:34,140
I think you mentioned it as opportunity
for us as we’re doing this for
479
00:26:34,141 –> 00:26:37,859
ourselves. The o Yes. The offer
and opportunity. Yeah. I love that.
480
00:26:39,090 –> 00:26:43,560
And then the r is, you request a
response of yourself. Yeah. It gonna,
481
00:26:43,561 –> 00:26:45,280
what’s it gonna be? Are you gonna
do something about it or not?
482
00:26:47,410 –> 00:26:52,340
Yeah, absolutely. It’s interesting
that you went back thinking about,
483
00:26:53,180 –> 00:26:55,380
well, what have I done?
What do I do? Well,
484
00:26:55,840 –> 00:27:00,619
so you looked at your skills and your
strengths to help you overcome just a
485
00:27:00,620 –> 00:27:04,820
real weak, painful season. And
it’s interesting how sometimes,
486
00:27:05,400 –> 00:27:08,340
you know, our hard skills can
help us with our soft skills.
487
00:27:08,520 –> 00:27:11,260
And sometimes our soft skills
can help us with our hard skills.
488
00:27:11,530 –> 00:27:13,980
Because if you’ve got the soft
skills, if you’ve got the,
489
00:27:13,981 –> 00:27:18,540
the courage of creativity, um,
the resilience to continue,
490
00:27:18,560 –> 00:27:21,060
you can always learn a skill.
But you did the opposite.
491
00:27:21,359 –> 00:27:25,619
You took your skills that you had in
copywriting and you were thinking, okay,
492
00:27:25,620 –> 00:27:26,453
what have I done?
493
00:27:26,720 –> 00:27:30,780
And I think that process of just going
back and looking at some of the things
494
00:27:30,781 –> 00:27:32,700
we’ve done, some of the
things we’re grateful for,
495
00:27:32,800 –> 00:27:36,500
the people we’re thankful for is
a good place to start, isn’t it?
496
00:27:36,501 –> 00:27:41,420
To begin to kind of figure out, because
that first step is so difficult.
497
00:27:41,520 –> 00:27:45,020
If someone is in pain right now,
or someone has physical challenges,
498
00:27:45,410 –> 00:27:49,700
that first step is so hard. So
can you recommend a first step?
499
00:27:49,760 –> 00:27:52,740
Is it best to kind of look
back and see, you know,
500
00:27:52,741 –> 00:27:54,180
some of the things that
you’re grateful for?
501
00:27:55,930 –> 00:28:00,310
That’s good. Um, it’s, I mean, it’s a
great thing. I don’t mean to diminish it.
502
00:28:00,311 –> 00:28:04,070
It’s, it’s a good thing to do
for sure. Um, I think what’s,
503
00:28:06,869 –> 00:28:09,430
let me say this. If you’re really
in a really desperate place,
504
00:28:09,431 –> 00:28:12,190
you should talk to someone who’s a
professional. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
505
00:28:12,790 –> 00:28:15,190
I wanna make that clear beyond that as,
506
00:28:15,210 –> 00:28:18,270
as you’re examining what you’re
gonna do with what you’ve been given,
507
00:28:18,750 –> 00:28:20,850
whatever that is. Uh,
508
00:28:21,090 –> 00:28:24,290
I think getting your thoughts out on paper
or on the screen is what’s important.
509
00:28:24,560 –> 00:28:26,730
Yeah. Journaling, I
used to scoff at a lot,
510
00:28:26,950 –> 00:28:30,350
but you don’t really know what’s in your
head that you’re trying to deal with
511
00:28:30,351 –> 00:28:32,710
until you get it out of your
head and get it on paper.
512
00:28:33,330 –> 00:28:37,390
So I would recommend starting with
a practice maybe of every day.
513
00:28:38,690 –> 00:28:41,400
First thing when you wake up, just think
about what you start thinking about.
514
00:28:41,760 –> 00:28:44,510
Because most of us start are
really good at, we wake up, we,
515
00:28:44,830 –> 00:28:46,470
we realize we had a good
night’s sleep maybe.
516
00:28:47,210 –> 00:28:49,150
And the first thing we start
thinking about is what’s,
517
00:28:49,151 –> 00:28:50,270
what’s the problems I’m facing?
518
00:28:51,070 –> 00:28:54,050
And we start making that list of problems
and people who are problems and people
519
00:28:54,051 –> 00:28:59,050
who cause problems and politics
who make us angry and make us
520
00:28:59,051 –> 00:28:59,884
angry and so forth.
521
00:29:00,650 –> 00:29:02,570
But get all that stuff out on
paper and start writing it down.
522
00:29:02,571 –> 00:29:05,130
Then when you can start getting at
the core issue that’s bothering you,
523
00:29:05,330 –> 00:29:06,150
whatever it is,
524
00:29:06,150 –> 00:29:10,420
if it’s a relationship or if it’s
family or whatever the case may be,
525
00:29:11,040 –> 00:29:14,680
you can start writing those things out
and realize nobody else is gonna see
526
00:29:14,681 –> 00:29:17,240
them. Nobody else is gonna hear
them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
527
00:29:17,360 –> 00:29:19,880
But you need to get honest with you
yourself. That’s, that’s where it begins.
528
00:29:20,620 –> 00:29:24,800
Yes. I agree. I agree. I, I
think writing, journaling,
529
00:29:25,040 –> 00:29:26,120
whatever way you wanna call it,
530
00:29:26,390 –> 00:29:31,320
just having that time of reflection is
so important cuz really we gotta take
531
00:29:31,321 –> 00:29:34,680
care of us first and then that
helps us with our relationships.
532
00:29:34,681 –> 00:29:36,480
And the wonderful thing about this book,
533
00:29:36,481 –> 00:29:39,840
this can help people with their
relationships, with their business,
534
00:29:39,841 –> 00:29:43,120
with their life, with a lot of things.
Cuz they’re basic principles, right?
535
00:29:43,660 –> 00:29:45,600
So I think this is so valuable.
536
00:29:46,030 –> 00:29:48,960
Even if someone is not
going through a challenge,
537
00:29:49,160 –> 00:29:53,440
I think this would be a great thing
to really crystallize, you know, how,
538
00:29:53,660 –> 00:29:56,320
how they show up who they are
and really crystalize, do.
539
00:29:56,360 –> 00:29:57,720
You know somebody who’s not
going through a challenge?
540
00:29:58,680 –> 00:29:59,940
Not really. I haven’t messed.
541
00:30:00,100 –> 00:30:00,620
That question.
542
00:30:00,620 –> 00:30:02,820
<Laugh>. Well some people
think, oh, everything is great.
543
00:30:02,821 –> 00:30:04,620
Maybe it’s self denial. Maybe that’s it.
544
00:30:04,621 –> 00:30:08,860
Maybe those that are in denial that
things maybe aren’t going as best as they
545
00:30:08,880 –> 00:30:11,060
can. I think this book can also help.
546
00:30:11,100 –> 00:30:14,180
I don’t want them to think that
they have to have an illness to,
547
00:30:14,181 –> 00:30:16,460
to get the book and read and
get a lot of benefit out of it.
548
00:30:16,860 –> 00:30:21,260
Cuz there’s a lot of benefit to be
had. Even if you think, well, I’m okay,
549
00:30:21,400 –> 00:30:24,900
you know, I, I can take care of things.
I don’t, I don’t really, you know,
550
00:30:25,010 –> 00:30:28,340
have str a lot of struggles. I can
get over things pretty quickly.
551
00:30:28,980 –> 00:30:33,260
I think this is a real helpful resource
for anyone that wants to just really
552
00:30:33,580 –> 00:30:36,580
leverage and not exist, but live
their life to their fullest.
553
00:30:37,280 –> 00:30:38,860
So there’s my pitch <laugh>.
554
00:30:39,420 –> 00:30:42,220
That’s, that’s the intention that I wrote
it. Miss. I agree with you. Of course.
555
00:30:42,940 –> 00:30:44,860
Yeah. And you know, maybe you don’t have,
556
00:30:45,840 –> 00:30:48,700
you certainly don’t have to have an
illness or some tragedy happening in your
557
00:30:48,701 –> 00:30:51,140
life to, to make this
book relevant to you.
558
00:30:51,800 –> 00:30:55,020
But if you have anything that you’ve
wanted to change, that you want to change,
559
00:30:55,021 –> 00:31:00,010
you found it difficult to
do so you struggle with
getting the habit out of your
560
00:31:00,011 –> 00:31:01,690
life, whatever that may
be. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
561
00:31:01,890 –> 00:31:04,850
it could be something as simple as you
eat too much sugar or what something of
562
00:31:04,851 –> 00:31:06,890
that nature. This’ll help.
563
00:31:07,040 –> 00:31:10,890
It’s for anybody who’s got a behavior or
a challenge in their life or a problem
564
00:31:10,950 –> 00:31:13,890
or just a quirk in their personality
they’d like to, to work on.
565
00:31:14,590 –> 00:31:16,370
And they’ve been stuck.
If you’ve ever felt stuck,
566
00:31:16,800 –> 00:31:19,130
this can help get you unstuck. Yeah.
567
00:31:19,410 –> 00:31:21,690
Because I don’t just tell you
how I wrote the letter to myself.
568
00:31:22,090 –> 00:31:24,290
I give you instructions
with each chapter, uh,
569
00:31:24,300 –> 00:31:27,330
steps you can take to write one
to yourself and do what I did.
570
00:31:27,910 –> 00:31:29,650
And I assure you,
571
00:31:30,550 –> 00:31:33,920
no philosophy or sales pitch or,
572
00:31:34,700 –> 00:31:39,240
or set of beliefs or rules for your life
will ring more true with you than the
573
00:31:39,241 –> 00:31:40,440
ones you figure out for yourself.
574
00:31:41,300 –> 00:31:41,750
Yes.
575
00:31:41,750 –> 00:31:45,160
Even if you, if you, even if you’re
taught by a wise teacher who,
576
00:31:45,480 –> 00:31:47,280
somebody who’s an authority,
you look at them and say, well,
577
00:31:47,281 –> 00:31:48,640
this person knew more than anybody else.
578
00:31:49,370 –> 00:31:52,520
Until you learn the lessons for yourself,
they’re not really yours. Mm-hmm.
579
00:31:52,560 –> 00:31:54,930
<Affirmative>. Very true. Very true.
580
00:31:55,180 –> 00:31:59,570
Those aha moments are so helpful
and we, we remember them and we,
581
00:31:59,640 –> 00:32:04,330
it’s better to be able to implement some
type of habit to overcome whatever it
582
00:32:04,331 –> 00:32:08,690
might be. That’s why I write every
morning because those insights, um,
583
00:32:08,760 –> 00:32:11,010
just hit right to the
heart. Right to the soul.
584
00:32:11,550 –> 00:32:16,130
And so that helps to be able to think
differently and begin a new path.
585
00:32:16,870 –> 00:32:20,210
So any last words? This has been
wonderful. Thank you so much, Ray,
586
00:32:20,270 –> 00:32:22,250
for sharing your heart,
being so transparent,
587
00:32:22,520 –> 00:32:24,970
telling your story for the sake of others.
588
00:32:25,230 –> 00:32:27,570
Any last words from you and
how can they get the book?
589
00:32:27,580 –> 00:32:29,370
Where do you want to lead people?
590
00:32:31,330 –> 00:32:33,460
Well, thank you for that. Um, my,
591
00:32:33,600 –> 00:32:37,140
my words would be if we
leave you with nothing else,
592
00:32:37,160 –> 00:32:41,640
it would be don’t just exist, don’t
just choose existence, choose life.
593
00:32:42,600 –> 00:32:44,220
And that means with all the,
594
00:32:44,920 –> 00:32:48,420
all the bumps and bruises
and the extraordinarily
painful things we go through,
595
00:32:48,421 –> 00:32:53,130
as well as the most joyous and
rich loving moments as well.
596
00:32:53,320 –> 00:32:56,650
It’s all part of what we’ve been
given. Okay. Don’t miss any of it.
597
00:32:57,820 –> 00:33:00,980
And you can get the book by going to
https://www.readthisordiebook.com/.
598
00:33:04,050 –> 00:33:04,570
Awesome.
599
00:33:04,570 –> 00:33:05,540
It’s the best place to go.
600
00:33:05,890 –> 00:33:09,380
Awesome. It sounds great.
And uh, I’ll just say here,
601
00:33:09,400 –> 00:33:12,980
if anybody does want to read
the book and get the book,
602
00:33:12,981 –> 00:33:15,540
there’s some bonuses as well,
right? You’ve got it. Some bonuses.
603
00:33:16,420 –> 00:33:18,910
Yeah. We’ve got a free mini
course that goes along.
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00:33:19,430 –> 00:33:22,830
It’s a video mini course goes along with
the book that shows you how to write
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00:33:22,831 –> 00:33:24,990
your own letter to
yourself just like I did.
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00:33:25,680 –> 00:33:26,513
That’s awesome.
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$197, yours free.
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I know you’re gonna enjoy
the book if you buy it.
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00:33:31,320 –> 00:33:36,220
So definitely buy the book and leave a
review, leave a review, a rating, um,
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00:33:36,480 –> 00:33:38,820
so that more people can
access the book as well.
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00:33:39,080 –> 00:33:42,980
So be sure to get the
book, get the bonuses,
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00:33:43,310 –> 00:33:45,700
write your own letter. That’s my homework.
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00:33:45,701 –> 00:33:48,620
I’m gonna rewrite my own letter and
then leave a review in a rating.
614
00:33:48,650 –> 00:33:52,220
That would be wonderful. And if you
have a podcast, uh, I don’t know,
615
00:33:52,320 –> 00:33:55,620
I’m sure Ray is really booked, but
you’ll make time. Right, right.
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00:33:55,680 –> 00:33:58,740
If somebody has a podcast, I will. I
appreciate that. Yes, absolutely <laugh>.
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00:33:58,950 –> 00:34:01,740
Absolutely. Well thank you
Ray, this has been awesome.
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00:34:01,860 –> 00:34:06,060
I really appreciate you being on the show
and I’m so excited that you are doing
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so well. We didn’t even tap into some
of the things that have ha given you a,
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00:34:10,180 –> 00:34:12,420
a second opportunity at life.
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00:34:12,489 –> 00:34:15,060
Some of the medical things
that have been going on.
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00:34:15,061 –> 00:34:19,219
You’ve been very candidly sharing a lot
of that in many of your social media
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00:34:19,620 –> 00:34:20,320
platforms and stuff.
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00:34:20,320 –> 00:34:24,020
So please connect with Ray so you
can see some of the things that have
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00:34:24,340 –> 00:34:28,820
transpired recently that has just given
Ray just an opportunity to do more and
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00:34:28,840 –> 00:34:32,940
be more and be able to serve more
people. It’s really been phenomenal.
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00:34:33,520 –> 00:34:35,060
So thank you so much, Ray.
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00:34:35,790 –> 00:34:37,860
Thank you. I appreciate
you so much. Thank you.
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Bye-Bye.